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The IBM party at Disneyland last Friday drew a small party of fans: the Craynes, the Pelzes, Ken Rudolph, and myself. We were just the right number for conversation and enjoyment-feedback, without being so large as to be unwieldy. We got started about 8:30, and roamed until the park closed at 1:00 a.m. Crowds were very light -- there probably weren't over 4,000 people in the whole park -- and we had almost no waiting to do. (We would've had if we'd decided to go on the Matterhorn bobsleds, though; but there were enough rides without lines to keep us busy all night.) All in all, it was one of the most enjoyable trips I've ever paid to Disneyland. If it weren't for the fact that most fannish trips these days are to take visiting fen, I think I'd limit all my visits to these evening company trips. I just wish the Xerox Corp. had parties like this, so I wouldn't have to mooch off others all the time.

With the exception of the people mover, the new Tomorrowland is completely open. Most of the best attractions there today seem to be the free commercial exhibits; the new Bell Telephone "America the Beautiful" Circarama (better than the old one), the GE Carousel of Progress, and Monsanto's Atomobile "Adventure thru Inner Space". The new Flight to the Moon ride is a definite improvement over the old one, too.

Elsewhere in the park, the new Small World ride and the Pirates of the Caribbean ride will always be worth going on. Disneyland seems to've renovated itself rather thoroughly in the last couple of years, and I think that anybody who hasn't been there in that long will now find it worthwhile going again.

With the completion of the new Tomorrowland (except for the people mover), that leaves only the Haunted Mansion that I know of that's still in the construction stage. Disneyland is supposed to never stop growing; does anyone know of any other plans they have for future changes?

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I've seen a couple of obituaries recently that may be of interest to the field. George Salter just died, for one. I believe he was the first artist to be recognized for his creative work on book dust jackets and the magazine covers, showing that these are media for fine art, and not just commercial art. He had many covers on the earlier issues of F&SF. The second obit was that of Aaron A. Wyn, head of Ace Books. I may be ghoulish, but I'm afraid my immediate reaction was to wonder what effect this will have on Ace's policy of keeping all its original cover art until it moulders? Will we now be able to get some of those Emsh, Freas, and Frazetta covers for WorldCon auctions?
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Tom Goldsmith -- I object to your not counting the back page of Earl Thompson's zine. In the first place, it's a page of text, no matter where it came from. In the second place, there's never been a ban on people putting through material not actually printed or written by themselves. Owen Hannifen put through several American Nazi Party leaflets; Lee Jacobs put through numerous NASA moon probe reports, and I've put through I don't know how much stuff, including Disneyland advertising, theater programs, and postage stamp brochures. And in the third place, Earl's Disneyland party announcement was not just colorful scrap paper, it was the announcement of an event to which LASFS members were being invited, and thus definitely of pertinent interest to the club. On any one of these grounds, it's perfectly entitled to be included in Apa L, rather than being excluded and officially censured. And why didn't you use it as a colorful back cover, as Earl requested?

Felice Rolfe -- If "Iolanthe" weren't the next production being performed by the L.A. Savoy-Artes, and if I weren't almost broke (it being 4 weeks since my last payday), I'd fly or drive up to see the Lamplighters. As it is, though, I just can't make it. I do want to keep hearing about their future productions, though.

I'll be publishing the new LASFS Directory (Jan. - June 1968) around Christmastime. If you've gotten a new address or phone number in the past six months, or if you're going to be getting new ones soon and know what they are, or if you weren't included in the last Directory and want to get into this one, or if there were any errors in the last Directory that you want corrected, make sure that you give me this information during the next couple of weeks.

Ruth Berman -- Would you (and other people) be interested in a LASFS picnic/party to the new L.A. Zoo, sometime around mid-January? If you'd rather go somewhere else first, or go to the Zoo at a different time, speak up. Otherwise the Zoo trip will be the next scheduled. ## Just out of curiosity, how many LASFSans would be interested in joining in a trip to the Alligator Farm?

Fred Hollander -- I've been saying that when and if the Dist'ns drop below 25 pages, I'll start arguing that it's time to kill off Apa L. This hasn't happened yet, but we've been getting awfully close lately. We're on the way back to getting good covers now, though; maybe the page count will pick up, too. ## You're right; I hadn't really thought about it until you mentioned it, but there are a lot of new people attending Meetings regularly now that haven't joined Apa L yet. Offhand, I can't see much else in the club to attract anybody just now, since we've practically given up our contacts with s-f and outer fandom I remember that one of the things that helped me make contact with national Fandom when I joined the club, 7 years ago, was when I would come into Zeke's house or the Fan Hillton, on a meeting night or on a weekend, there would almost always be a new fanzine or two lying on a chair or table for me to pick up and read. VOID, CRY, HABAKKUK, XERO, LIGHTHOUSE, RETRO, WARHOON, or even TNFF. And, of course, SHAGGY, with articles and letters from fans all over the country. But there's nothing like this anymore, which is the fault of Fandom as much as it is of us. The fanzines just don't exist anymore to be left around for the neos to read. I miss 'em, *sigh*

Dian Pelz -- A very nice cover. I'm glad to see the old artists coming back again.

Earl Thompson -- I wonder if I've started something with my booster club idea? I'll be glad to join St. Louis', in any case.

Sally Crayne -- My suggestion was more or less for specific books. I suggested a discussion night on the book by fans-turned-pro, such as Juanita Coulson, Dick Lupoff, Dave Van Arnam, etc. How many books have these people written?

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